Comments on: “Oh you mean we liberals are supposed to be the conciliatory ones? No shit!”

By: Eric Botticelli

Eric Botticelli — Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:50:37 +0000

Interesting post.

I was very pleased that both Mr. Bush and Mr. Kerry came out and called for the people of America to join together.
However, I did feel that Mr. Kerry betrayed his demographic because he and Mr. Edwards had promised to count every vote. Mr. Kerry conceded the race on November 3rd, 8 days before the unknown number of challenged (iniatiated by Ohio Republicans) voters would be tallied. This number is thought to be anywhere from 150K-250K votes in the state of Ohio alone. That, in conjuction with the evidence that has been surfacing since November 4th regarding massive irregularities in the vote count that consistently favor the Republican party, this election is not over.
This is why members of congress have petitioned the GOA to an immediate inquiry into this matter (on November 5th they wrote the letter) so that we can have some official examination of this controversial matter.
See my article here.

By: Janelle

Janelle — Sat, 06 Nov 2004 01:07:07 +0000

Oh, you really do need a good laugh! Go to Dean’s World and read…Super Master Plan!

It’s hysterical and people are hoping those nuts you’re talking about will take it seriously.

I had not seen you for a while and came looking for you. You do know after two years of blogging we revealed who I am…yes, his Ma. Go laugh…

By: ghani

ghani — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 11:00:30 +0000

I would believe Bush’s offer of conciliation if he had a presidential history of working with — or even acknowledging — those who disagreed with him. The reality is that Bush plots a course and sticks with it, no matter who says what. Kerry supporters are upset because we realise that we’re going to get railroaded for the next four years on very important issues, issues that require a bipartisan commitment to be solved correctly.

By: OF Jay

OF Jay — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:00:28 +0000

Pile on the condescension! Pile on the sanctimony! If you see no substance in my closing paragraph you’re much more far gone than you pretend to be, Mark.

UPDATE: By the way I dropped by your blog. No you’re not quite the liberal stereotype. So why should this post of mine anger you? That you get lumped in with everyone else? Sir, we all have gone through this. If you took the time to click through a couple of the folks I linked, especially the one by Jeff Goldstein, you’ll see the kind of reactions that I do not like. They’re the ones getting the most coverage. They’re the ones who “represent” you, just like Ann Coulter by association “represents” me. It’s tough, but hey. Go through my last graf. I just shared with the Democrats what the Repubs did during the Clinton years. Maybe they can pick something up from it.

By: matt stark

matt stark — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:52:15 +0000

Your post made me very angry. Is that what you wanted?

It is a lot to ask right now to set aside all the emotion of the election and get right back to discussing issues. But I am all for it.

It’s too bad that there is nothing of substance in your endless post to which I can respond. You are happy to attack that which can’t defend itself, ridiculous sterotypes of liberals.

If only you had offered one idea, one thought provoking principle, in your vacant post to which I might have responded.

All I am left with is a critique of your wandering, inflammatory prose. A critique that isn’t worth my time.

I was going to just leave this site without leaving a comment. And even though I know that attempts to exchange ideas with you would be fruitless, I am too wound up now to just leave.

I want you to know that if you did nothing else today, you made someone’s day worse. I wonder if you are truly happy about that.

Go on tough guy. Play it tough. Play it like I’m just another crying liberal. Any way you cut it, you are just an asshole with nothing of substance to offer.

By: OF Jay

OF Jay — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:23:50 +0000

Sweetie pie Andrei, we know you and your ilk. No effort at sincerity will ever be enough for you until what we present fits your world view. You’re not the demographic I’m asking to help conciliate and meet halfway.

By: Andrei Herasimchuk

Andrei Herasimchuk — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:13:31 +0000

It’s not our job to meet the GOP halfway given the outcome of the election. It’s the GOP’s job to prove that it’s worth our time to meet ythem halfway and that you’re being an honest broker in the debate of ideas, which to date has not occured. See Limbaugh. See Hannity. See Carlson. See O’Reilly. See Novak. See Coulter. (This is a free country, and we can be just as stubborn in our views just as so many on the right seem to be in theirs and that’s just tough shit.) The past four years have proven we have the right to be skeptical that Bush and the right want to work with us. That they honestly want our input and points of view in the political discourse.

Last time I checked, I was called “treasonous” by the likes of Coulter just for believing that waging a war that has had a net effect of killing tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens was not the most effective way to beat back the terrorist threat. That’s the free market of ideas. Give me a fucking break. That’s just bullshit..

Until we (liberals, moderates and libertarians, of which I am the latter) feel like we’ll get some honesty from the GOP side of the aisle, what they’ll get in return is anger at the direction this country is moving. Especially considering most of us feel the GOP has given its conservative a good bait-and-switch marketing snow job to retain power.

And you know what, that just means tough shit for all us. You guys won. Fine. You need to evaluate the way in which you won and ask yourself if it was worth it. I personally think it was a phyrric victory for the GOP, and net loss for the rest of the country.

Way to go guys… you made everyone more angry instead of collectively feeling more proud to be American. Not a small feat I might add.

By: Babalu Blog

Babalu Blog — Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:46:17 +0000

Fish or cut bait.
Jay has some choice words for the whiners….

By: Val Prieto

Val Prieto — Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:43:04 +0000

Oh, man, you absolutely read my mind. Nice work Jay.

By: Stephan Segraves

Stephan Segraves — Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:12:15 +0000

I love you… This is exactly how I have felt for the whole election and will probably continue to until things really start to subside.

What really makes me angry is all of those stupid “Vote or Die” and “Rock the Vote” commercials that were so geared to convincing kids to vote for Kerry that it made me sick. It is obvious that people did not let their true wants/desires for a president be swayed by some actor telling them that they are better off voting for who that actor was voting for.