Comments on: Whither the heart of darkness? http://onefinejay.com/2004/12/29/whither-the-heart-of-darkness The personal blog of Jayvie Canono: on WordPress, Politics, Design and Life. Wed, 23 May 2012 13:39:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4-beta4-20841 By: Blogesota http://onefinejay.com/2004/12/29/whither-the-heart-of-darkness/comment-page-1#comment-2025 Blogesota Thu, 06 Jan 2005 03:03:37 +0000 http://onefinejay.com/2004/12/29/whither-the-heart-of-darkness/#comment-2025 From Sontag's "notorious" New Yorker essay: "Where is the acknowledgment that this was not a “cowardly” attack on “civilization” or “liberty” or “humanity” or “the free world” but an attack on the world’s self-proclaimed superpower, undertaken as a consequence of specific American alliances and actions? How many citizens are aware of the ongoing American bombing of Iraq?..." Arthur Silber quoted the entire essay on his blog: http://coldfury.com/reason/index.php?p=69 We should not lose sight of the specificity of this act of terrorism. There is no culture clash - relgion and hate are theater. It's all about wealth and destiny. Sontag's essay was a clarification of foreign policy. If the problem is with American foreign policy, why is it taboo to address it? From Sontag’s “notorious” New Yorker essay:
“Where is the acknowledgment that this was not a “cowardly” attack on “civilization” or “liberty” or “humanity” or “the free world” but an attack on the world’s self-proclaimed superpower, undertaken as a consequence of specific American alliances and actions? How many citizens are aware of the ongoing American bombing of Iraq?…”

Arthur Silber quoted the entire essay on his blog:
http://coldfury.com/reason/index.php?p=69

We should not lose sight of the specificity of this act of terrorism. There is no culture clash – relgion and hate are theater. It’s all about wealth and destiny. Sontag’s essay was a clarification of foreign policy. If the problem is with American foreign policy, why is it taboo to address it?

]]> By: Vinny http://onefinejay.com/2004/12/29/whither-the-heart-of-darkness/comment-page-1#comment-1997 Vinny Tue, 04 Jan 2005 03:03:22 +0000 http://onefinejay.com/2004/12/29/whither-the-heart-of-darkness/#comment-1997 I don't think anyone is over-villainzing her. In order for that to happen, one would have to be distorting her comments. Unfortunately, her comments are out there for the whole world to see, and in reality, there's no room for interpretation of them. Her meaning is pretty clear. As I said earlier, you don't have to be the embodiment of evil to be a malicious hateful bitch whose death brings forth zero sympathy. I'd say that aptly describes my feelings toward her. Frankly, I'm glad she's dead. I don’t think anyone is over-villainzing her. In order for that to happen, one would have to be distorting her comments. Unfortunately, her comments are out there for the whole world to see, and in reality, there’s no room for interpretation of them.

Her meaning is pretty clear.

As I said earlier, you don’t have to be the embodiment of evil to be a malicious hateful bitch whose death brings forth zero sympathy.

I’d say that aptly describes my feelings toward her.

Frankly, I’m glad she’s dead.

]]> By: O. F. Jay, Grill-&-Chillmeister http://onefinejay.com/2004/12/29/whither-the-heart-of-darkness/comment-page-1#comment-1996 O. F. Jay, Grill-&-Chillmeister Tue, 04 Jan 2005 02:11:46 +0000 http://onefinejay.com/2004/12/29/whither-the-heart-of-darkness/#comment-1996 Of their deaths I had no respect for Derrida, Arafat, or that Hamas dude in a wheelchair. "Jerk" she may have been but my point is that she was not as evil as those I mentioned, perhaps not as malevolent at all. You know me more than most that I, too, detest the hate-america-first mentality, but I place it under the "misled" or "self-loathing" columns than under "evil." The talk among some rightwing websites makes the bitch sound like she bathed in the blood of ten thousand virgins every night. Trevino's examination of her passage from schilling for Communism to speaking out for freedom for Eastern Europeans is a fair treatment of what I call "redemptive efforts," the same efforts that Leni Rifenstahl made after WW2. Efforts that to this day no one would give her credit for, efforts that detract from the beauty of her photography, at least in the eyes of those whose forgiveness will forever be denied her. Of their deaths I had no respect for Derrida, Arafat, or that Hamas dude in a wheelchair. “Jerk” she may have been but my point is that she was not as evil as those I mentioned, perhaps not as malevolent at all.

You know me more than most that I, too, detest the hate-america-first mentality, but I place it under the “misled” or “self-loathing” columns than under “evil.” The talk among some rightwing websites makes the bitch sound like she bathed in the blood of ten thousand virgins every night.

Trevino’s examination of her passage from schilling for Communism to speaking out for freedom for Eastern Europeans is a fair treatment of what I call “redemptive efforts,” the same efforts that Leni Rifenstahl made after WW2. Efforts that to this day no one would give her credit for, efforts that detract from the beauty of her photography, at least in the eyes of those whose forgiveness will forever be denied her.

]]> By: Vinny http://onefinejay.com/2004/12/29/whither-the-heart-of-darkness/comment-page-1#comment-1995 Vinny Tue, 04 Jan 2005 01:55:55 +0000 http://onefinejay.com/2004/12/29/whither-the-heart-of-darkness/#comment-1995 I love how people think speaking ill of the dead is bad, but outwardly lying about how high-minded and intellectual they are is A O K. The woman was trash. She was a high-minded intellectual in the minds of those that agreed with her, namely the "white-man-is-to-blame" and the "we-brought-it-all-upon-ourselves" crowd. There is nothing interesting or intellectual about her talking points stances. One does not have to be a genocidal oppressor to be an utter jerk in life or in death, and she fits the category quite well. Her lionization, while not done by you, in the mainstream press is disgusting because the whole scope of her opinions is utterly ignored. She's symptomatic of a larger problem of hate-america-first-pseudo-intellectuals, the likes of which I cannot stand, and deserves exactly zero respect whether it's in death or in life. I love how people think speaking ill of the dead is bad, but outwardly lying about how high-minded and intellectual they are is A O K. The woman was trash. She was a high-minded intellectual in the minds of those that agreed with her, namely the “white-man-is-to-blame” and the “we-brought-it-all-upon-ourselves” crowd.

There is nothing interesting or intellectual about her talking points stances. One does not have to be a genocidal oppressor to be an utter jerk in life or in death, and she fits the category quite well. Her lionization, while not done by you, in the mainstream press is disgusting because the whole scope of her opinions is utterly ignored.

She’s symptomatic of a larger problem of hate-america-first-pseudo-intellectuals, the likes of which I cannot stand, and deserves exactly zero respect whether it’s in death or in life.

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